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15 February 2008 @ 06:39 pm
American Words and Doctor Who  
Did anyone else get thrown a bit when Jack said "mum" in episode 2.05 of Torchwood? With that American accent of his it really seems to me like he should have said "mom." So instead of it being a touching moment, I got all distracted.

It reminds me of the Doctor Who Episode, Daleks in Manhattan when all of those "Americans" kept saying they were going up and down the "lift." It threw me right out of the story. Strangely enough, Martha (the only one who was supposed to be English) was the only one who used the word "elevator" in the whole episode.
 
 
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brilliantomega: Torchwood - Jack/Gwenbrilliantomega on February 15th, 2008 11:58 pm (UTC)
And the young!Jack had an english accent on some things too. Very odd. I think JB does so well and catches those things because he grew up in the States.
svanderslice: TW - svanderslice on February 16th, 2008 12:04 am (UTC)
Yeah, but he didn't catch the "mum" thing. Unless you could argue that young!Jack had an accent and just lost it later. If that's the case he would have called his mother "mum."

I do think the kid was trying to use an American accent though.
brilliantomega: Torchwood - Jack/Gwenbrilliantomega on February 16th, 2008 12:33 am (UTC)
Yeah - poor kid. Some people can really do accents - most can't.
svanderslicesvanderslice on February 16th, 2008 01:07 am (UTC)
He tried though, right? I'm too embarrassed to give an English accent a go.
hezmanagirl: Torchwood Thezmanagirl on February 16th, 2008 12:12 am (UTC)
I thought it was distracting that everyone in the 51st century seemed to be caucasian, American and waaaaaay into the Star Wars look. When Jack said "Mum" it definitely sounded odd. Fine for John Barrowman, but odd for Jack.

I was a bit annoyed at Jack's mother when she realized Gray was missing and was crying over her little boy. Um, ma'am? You have another son right in front of you who has enough guilt to start his own religion! I know grief makes us react abnormally but it still made me mad.
svanderslicesvanderslice on February 16th, 2008 12:16 am (UTC)
I felt really bad in that moment for little Jack, but I didn't really blame his mom for it. She'd just lost her husband and one of her son's. Rational thinking was most likely not a possibility at that point.
hezmanagirl: Torchwood Thezmanagirl on February 16th, 2008 03:36 am (UTC)
I'm definitely on the same page. I felt horrible for Jack since he was wracked with guilt and just found his father dead. I know what grief can do, so I'm sure his mother wasn't fully there. I know that when I've suffered a loss my first instinct is to want to help others, maybe his Mom is the kind that needs to go inward for a while.

rjrog77 on February 16th, 2008 12:19 pm (UTC)

I was a bit annoyed at Jack's mother when she realized Gray was missing and was crying over her little boy. Um, ma'am? You have another son right in front of you who has enough guilt to start his own religion! I know grief makes us react abnormally but it still made me mad.

Yep, with you on that one - although I also think svanderslice is right. His mother was in shock and not thinking rationally at the time.

(I actually found that particular part one of the most distressing of the episode, though, so it may just be me.)

Michellegaladriella1 on February 16th, 2008 12:28 am (UTC)
I think John Barrowman refered to his mum as mum not mom when i saw him in Brighton, but also, in his book, she is mum not mom.

I think it is because his early years were spent in Scotland, so maybe Mum is the term he would use over Mom.

And I am getting debaty over how to say a word.
svanderslicesvanderslice on February 16th, 2008 12:33 am (UTC)
yeah, but when John Barrowman talks to his mother, he uses a Scottish accent, so she would be "mum." "Mum" in an American accent just sounds weird to me.

And Jack has said American things before, like "cell phone," so it just threw me a bit this time.
Michellegaladriella1 on February 16th, 2008 12:35 am (UTC)
fair point - you win, lol!!

Still, I suppose, I mean, we don't know at what point in Jack's it was that he took on an American accent - probably around the same time they hired an American Actor, but who can be sure... :p
svanderslicesvanderslice on February 16th, 2008 12:38 am (UTC)
I agree, that would be the only way it would work, if Jack somehow had a different accent as a child, and so therefore called his mother "mum" at that point. Except, I think that little boy was trying to use an American accent. Could be wrong though.
Frances: Evilest of all ebil evilness evilgoldy_dollar on February 16th, 2008 01:21 am (UTC)
Okay, I say "Mum," so I totally didn't notice it. Maybe Jack has picked up some strange quirks being around so many Brits?
svanderslicesvanderslice on February 16th, 2008 01:33 am (UTC)
I suppose that's possible too. It still sounded off to me though.